It seems, now we no longer ‘see through a glass darkly, but now face to face’ that Charlie Kirk was not right enough for the Far Right Groyper cult.
Well, I am not well versed in this ‘meme’ terminology, so I looked this up.
The original Groyper was a variant drawing of the famous (and infamous) Pepe the Frog cartoon, which portrayed Pepe as overweight, sitting down with one knee in the air and his head resting on his hands. The Groyper is also giving the viewer a smug smile.
The first known upload of the image was shared to the /v/ (video game) board on 4chan in March 2016. However, “groyper” was first used on the /r9k/ board a year earlier.
In the following years, as Pepe the Frog became increasingly associated with the online far-right, so did the Groyper. By 2019, many alt-right accounts used variations of the Groyper drawing as their profile pictures on social media.
and we are informed by knowyourmeme.com:
The people responsible were part of the then-budding “Groyper Army,” a subset of the far-right, largely focused on American white nationalism and preserving the white race. Like a TikTok cult or a group of friends, they all changed their profile pictures to the same thing: Groypers.
Then-22-year-old Nick Fuentes, a controversial far-right figure, was the de facto leader of the online “army.” He hosted a YouTube show called “America First” in which he harped on Groyper Army talking points and championed the movement.
Conservative pundits and politicians like Shapiro and Trump Jr. were targeted because they weren’t viewed as conservative enough.
For example, the Groypers took issue with the Republican Party’s use of LGBTQ+ speakers and Shapiro’s status as a Jewish man in the movement, according to outlets like Vox.
Heading into the 2020s and U.S. President Donald Trump’s second term, the Groypers seemingly grew in numbers and Fuentes’s influence ballooned. He was recently profiled by the New York Times, months after he was doxxed for the first time.
Tyler Robinson, the 22 year old confessed killer of Charlie Kirk, is from a Republican registered family, a Mormon religion and was seemingly radicalised by the Groyper cult. His minister and father turned him in, the right thing to do.
The group Turning Point, founded by Charlie Kirk is defined by an AI search as:
Turning Point USA has been criticized for promoting extremist views and has been labeled by some organizations as a platform for hate and bigotry, particularly against marginalized groups. The Southern Poverty Law Center has identified it as having ties to hard-right extremism and has documented instances of racist and discriminatory rhetoric associated with its leadership. Southern Poverty Law Center racism.org
It is worth noting that Charlie Kirk did provoke other Right wingers recently, concerning the ‘Epstein files’
While Kirk positioned himself as an ardent defender of Israel, he more recently showed a willingness to engage with other conservative commentators deeply critical of Israel, such as Jewish American comedian David Smith, who has regularly criticised Israel for conducting a genocide in Gaza and lobbied the US to stop sending arms to the country.
Kirk’s hosting of Smith and lobbying for the release of the Epstein files put him in the crosshairs of Trump ally and far-right influencer, Laura Loomer.
“I don’t ever want to hear @charliekirk11 claim he is pro-Trump ever again,” Loomer wrote on X in August. “Lately, Charlie has decided to behave like a charlatan, claiming to be pro-Trump one day while he stabs Trump in the back the next.”
It is worthy of note that a former MSNBC analyst Matthew Dowd was sacked for his recent comments:
Rebecca Kutler fired Matthew Dowd because he said the following about Kirk:
He was constantly pushing this sort of hate speech aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to: Hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. … You can’t say these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place.
Interesting about what happened to quality FBI staff stationed in Salt Lake City:
A month before the Charlie Kirk political assassination at Utah Valley University (UVU), a woman named Mehtab Syed was pushed out of her role as head of the FBI’s Salt Lake City field office. Maybe she did something wrong, or perhaps she was no longer a good fit. While those are the usual lines used to explain a firing, there seems to be much more to Syed’s removal than meets the eye.
https://www.distractify.com/p/salt-lake-city-fbi-chief-mehtab-syed-fired
Let us not rewrite history. Let us respect and remind ourselves about the land which is known now as Utah:
Utah is the ancestral homeland of the Ute, Paiute, Shoshone, Goshute and Diné people.
Because some people want us to believe only Mormons lived there.
https://courses.freedomofmind.com/courses/recovery-after-mormonism-workshop
Gathering the data and analysing it is often the only way we can stand outside the problem and make clear our view of where radicalisation is being generated sufficient to cause extreme violence.
ADL has done that, and their analysis is highly revealing:
https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2022
The Covid pandemic probably tilted the vulnerable young minds, isolated from healthy interaction with their peers, to make more ‘friends online’ who some turned out to be radicalising forces.
London march, September 13th 2025:
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Elon Musk called for the “dissolution of parliament” and change of government in the U.K. during a far-right rally in London on Saturday.
Zev Shalev has reviewed Charlie Kirk’s effort to prove he had become a critical thinker, losing donor funds for doing so. On Substack, September 15th, Shalev writes:
Kirk’s death wasn’t just an assassination—it was a warning to anyone approaching the Epstein question. “Conviction without courage is just noise,” Kirk once said. In his final months, he proved his courage and conviction by standing up to billion-dollar donors, against Israeli pressure, against his own party’s leadership. Kirk found the courage to ask the questions that mattered. That courage—not the bullet that silenced him—is his legacy.
While it’s easy to fall into the temptation of solving the whodunnit of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, or devolve into partisan fights that achieve nothing but to further divide us, the efforts of citizens and representatives from both parties would honor his courageous legacy by demanding the Epstein Files be released and voting in favor of Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna’s discharge petition.
“Courage is the ultimate virtue,” Kirk opined. “If people aren’t courageous, you don’t have honesty, you don’t have justice, you don’t have beauty, you don’t have wonder.”
Charlie Kirk’s insurgency lives on in every voice that refuses to be bought, every question that refuses to be buried, every truth that refuses to die.
Grasp courage. Release the Epstein Files. For Charlie, and for America.
It is interesting to note Charlie Kirk’s father was involved as an architect in Trump’s Tower in New York:
In a surprising turn of events, the architecture firm owned by Charlie Kirk’s father is gaining attention after its connection to Trump Tower in New York. The revelations have sparked discussions among people about the extent of influence such connections can hold in both business and media realms.
https://mysterylores.com/news/charlie-kirk-father-trump-tower-design/
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Washington Post columnist says she was fired over her ‘unacceptable’ Charlie Kirk social media posts
‘The Post accused my measured Bluesky posts of being ‘unacceptable’, ‘gross misconduct’ and of endangering the physical safety of colleagues — charges without evidence, which I reject completely as false,’ Karen Attiah wrote Monday
in New York
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Sept 18th reporting widely:
On Wednesday evening, ABC announced they were caving to Trump and his Reeks and taking Kimmel off the air for his Monday night monologue in which he said, “We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it.”
And Jim Acosta says:
Jimmy Kimmel deserves better than this. He’s a class act. Case in point – after my first appearance on his show back in 2018, he very thoughtfully asked whether I was receiving adequate security at that time, as Trump was repeatedly smearing journalists as “the enemy of the people,” comments that resulted in threats aimed at many of us in the White House Press Corps. I’ll never forget that moment of kindness from Jimmy. It spoke volumes. Make no mistake, our right to free speech is under attack in this country. This right must be defended as it is essential to the American way of life.
Sept 18th, Adam Kinzinger comment:
Brendan Carr’s actions this week are a textbook example of how government intimidation can erode the First Amendment. Yesterday, after Jimmy Kimmel criticized the President’s reaction to the killing of Charlie Kirk, Carr publicly threatened ABC and its parent company Disney. He suggested that the network’s broadcast license could be jeopardized, framing his threat in terms of the FCC’s “public interest obligations.” That is not merely commentary—it is an official signaling of regulatory retaliation aimed at silencing a viewpoint.
Sept 19th, Gary Kasparov remembers his life in Russia:
Very quickly, the Russian government set about squeezing the country’s fledgling free press. They did so in a pincer movement that attacked individual journalists, presenters, and programs from one side and the owners of media enterprises from the other.
The government ratcheted up the pressure to pull shows that didn’t fit their narrative. One early casualty was Kukly (dolls), a puppet show that poked fun at Russia’s elites. NTV dropped a political talk show called Svoboda Slova (freedom of speech) after a pro-Kremlin team took over the network.
The Russian Prosecutor General’s Office summoned top editors and media executives to interrogate them over their finances.
Kremlin officials pressured upstart businessmen to sell their stakes in media conglomerates. Government agents raided network headquarters. The authorities strategically orchestrated mergers to ensure conformity and compliance, sacking “bad oligarchs” and installing “good oligarchs” in their place.
Independent journalists faced libel and defamation lawsuits.
18th September,some extracts from Distractify:
FCC Chair Brendan Carr’s Chapter of Project 2025 Called for Freedom of Speech
Apparently FCC Chairman Brendan Carr has had a change of heart when it comes to the First Amendment.
He joined The Heritage Foundation in February 2022 and contributed to Project 2025.
Brandon Carr contributed quite a bit to Project 2025.
For those who don’t know, the Federal Communications Commission regulates U.S. internet access and communications networks such as TV and radio. When it comes to free speech, the FCC adheres to the First Amendment, which states the federal government “shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.”
Some of Carr’s goals as outlined in Project 2025 address tech giants like Google, Meta, and others. “Today, a handful of corporations can shape everything from the information we consume to the places we shop,” he wrote. “These corporate behemoths are not merely exercising market power, they are abusing dominant positions.” Carr wants to make these companies responsible for libelous statements made by its users. He also wanted more transparency regarding algorithm changes.
Carr also focused on broadcast companies like CBS and NBC, supporting President Trump’s allegations that they were engaging in political bias against conservatives. This is particularly noteworthy following ABC’s decision to pull Jimmy Kimmel Live! off air indefinitely in September 2025. While the Disney subsidiary didn’t cite a reason, many believe it is related to remarks Kimmel made in reference to the assassination of right-wing podcast host Charlie Kirk.
Brendan Carr is celebrating the suspension of ‘Jimmy Kimmel Live!’
Brian Stelter, the Chief Media Analyst for CNN, reached out to Carr for a comment about ABC pulling Kimmel’s show. In a post to X, Stelter revealed that Carr responded with a gif from The Office in which Michael Scott (Steve Carell) and Dwight Schrute (Rainn Wilson) are dancing and raising the proverbial roof.
Anderson Cooper had Stelter on Anderson Cooper 360, where he asked the media analyst about Carr’s response. Stelter said he and Carr had been in touch for months as he was reporting on the FCC. “He’s been very aggressive about using the media to try and pressure companies like Disney,” explained Stelter. Carr also texted Stelter, celebrating Nexstar’s decision to pressure ABC affiliates to pull Kimmel’s show off the air.
When actor Kevin McHale posted, “This was all in Project 2025, btw,” referencing the Jimmy Kimmel situation, Carr responded with a gif of Jack Nicholson grinning and nodding. A few people have pointed out Carr’s hypocrisy by sharing a screenshot of a post he made to X back in February 2019. “Should the government censor speech it doesn’t like?” asked Carr. “Of course not,” he said. Apparently, that didn’t last.
“He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them,” Trump said of Kirk. “That’s where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponents, and I don’t want the best for them. I’m sorry,” Trump added. “I am sorry, Erika.”
“Charlie’s angry… he’s angry at me,” Trump added.
And of the Democrats recently murdered by a hate inspired shooter, we will not forget the Hortman’s and their lovely dog.
Robert Reich, 22nd Sept. reported:
Immediately after Kimmel’s suspension, Disney viewers and customers began to cancel their subscriptions to Disney+ and Hulu and threaten a broader consumer boycott.
According to Strength in Numbers, the Disney boycott quickly became four times as large as any boycott over the last five years.
Disney’s stock dipped about 3.5 percent and continued to trade lower in subsequent days — a loss in market value amounting to some $4 billion.
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